http://brickspeed.net/forum/ Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:29:08 +0000 MyBB http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=781&pid=57149#pid57149 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:40:55 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=781&pid=57149#pid57149 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1769&pid=57148#pid57148 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:33:12 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1769&pid=57148#pid57148
Sounds like the pertronix 12v triggered square wave should go into the logic circuit, which can be setup like a hall effect sensor (right?) Then from that we can go into a crane hifire box or other type of ign amplifier, then to the coil.

It all seems simple enough now that I've sat down and reacquainted myself with the megamanual, but at the time it was kinda overwhelming.

I'm going to put up some diagrams to have as a reference, Nick would you mind taking a look at them when I get them posted to see if I've made any errors.

Man history keeps repeating it's self: like 2 years ago and I forgot all about it. http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=191162]]>
Sounds like the pertronix 12v triggered square wave should go into the logic circuit, which can be setup like a hall effect sensor (right?) Then from that we can go into a crane hifire box or other type of ign amplifier, then to the coil.

It all seems simple enough now that I've sat down and reacquainted myself with the megamanual, but at the time it was kinda overwhelming.

I'm going to put up some diagrams to have as a reference, Nick would you mind taking a look at them when I get them posted to see if I've made any errors.

Man history keeps repeating it's self: like 2 years ago and I forgot all about it. http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=191162]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=781&pid=57146#pid57146 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:17:46 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=781&pid=57146#pid57146 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1390&pid=57143#pid57143 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:29:44 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1390&pid=57143#pid57143
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I see alot of Volvo's everyday at work, and this still has to be my favorite model. Lots of character and fun to drive!]]>
I see alot of Volvo's everyday at work, and this still has to be my favorite model. Lots of character and fun to drive!]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1763&pid=57116#pid57116 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:52:09 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1763&pid=57116#pid57116 ]]> ]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1390&pid=57115#pid57115 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:11:54 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1390&pid=57115#pid57115 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1390&pid=57109#pid57109 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:04:01 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1390&pid=57109#pid57109
Also, painted the hubcap centers red and dressed the tires. Pictures in the AM. ]]>
Also, painted the hubcap centers red and dressed the tires. Pictures in the AM. ]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1769&pid=57102#pid57102 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:15:20 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1769&pid=57102#pid57102
If Justin's MS is currently triggered off of the ignition coil and you modded the input circuit to emulate how yours is set up then no, it won't work. The input circuits are different between hall, VR, and negative coil triggers.]]>
If Justin's MS is currently triggered off of the ignition coil and you modded the input circuit to emulate how yours is set up then no, it won't work. The input circuits are different between hall, VR, and negative coil triggers.]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1764&pid=57093#pid57093 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:43:52 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1764&pid=57093#pid57093 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1759&pid=57079#pid57079 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:55:59 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1759&pid=57079#pid57079
Can you post a video of it running?]]>
Can you post a video of it running?]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1769&pid=57078#pid57078 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:42:26 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1769&pid=57078#pid57078 What I've been reading: http://www.msextra.com/doc/index.html
It has a lot of diagrams, none of which are how my board is modded so I'm guessing something's changed over the years.

Back story is this weekend I flashed Justin's (blu92in99) '71 140 from fuel only MS1 v1 (8x8 table) to HR10G code. The reflash was simple and went great, got a good tune on it with the new 12x12 tables and it was running great.

Then I get the idea, well why don't I mod the board for spark so next time all we need to do is wire the db37 and won't need to crack open the box. I duplicated the wiring from my MS1 v2.2 MSnS-E board (which I've been running for years). First off it just didn't work, the non spark modded board got the RPM signal from the neg of the coil on pin 24 or something, and the spark modded one didn't like that. We didn't have time to get everything straightened up. So, I removed the jumpers and resistors that I added for the spark, and the board was happy again.

To prepare for the upgrade properly I thought I'd ask what people are now doing to add spark to their v2.2 boards. The question is, where should I go to find the latest modality for adding spark to a V2.2 board? I don't exactly know if he's going to use a Bosch ign module or EDIS I'm guessing that changes how the board needs to be modded.
Thanks!

TLDR: Whats the current popular way to add spark to v2.2 MS boards, there are a lot of choices, which one should I do? ]]> What I've been reading: http://www.msextra.com/doc/index.html
It has a lot of diagrams, none of which are how my board is modded so I'm guessing something's changed over the years.

Back story is this weekend I flashed Justin's (blu92in99) '71 140 from fuel only MS1 v1 (8x8 table) to HR10G code. The reflash was simple and went great, got a good tune on it with the new 12x12 tables and it was running great.

Then I get the idea, well why don't I mod the board for spark so next time all we need to do is wire the db37 and won't need to crack open the box. I duplicated the wiring from my MS1 v2.2 MSnS-E board (which I've been running for years). First off it just didn't work, the non spark modded board got the RPM signal from the neg of the coil on pin 24 or something, and the spark modded one didn't like that. We didn't have time to get everything straightened up. So, I removed the jumpers and resistors that I added for the spark, and the board was happy again.

To prepare for the upgrade properly I thought I'd ask what people are now doing to add spark to their v2.2 boards. The question is, where should I go to find the latest modality for adding spark to a V2.2 board? I don't exactly know if he's going to use a Bosch ign module or EDIS I'm guessing that changes how the board needs to be modded.
Thanks!

TLDR: Whats the current popular way to add spark to v2.2 MS boards, there are a lot of choices, which one should I do? ]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=995&pid=57076#pid57076 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:12:41 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=995&pid=57076#pid57076 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1764&pid=57072#pid57072 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:40:55 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1764&pid=57072#pid57072
Thanks for the encouragement! Can't wait to get started ]]>
Thanks for the encouragement! Can't wait to get started ]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1759&pid=57063#pid57063 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:31:49 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1759&pid=57063#pid57063 http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Tru-Coil-R...5,165.html


In the rear I'm running 245 springs (cut to length) with the 240 upper perches installed. Be sure to use the upper perch bolt from the 140, not the 240 as the thread pitch is different.

you'll need to trim the bump stops as well.

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In the rear I'm running 245 springs (cut to length) with the 240 upper perches installed. Be sure to use the upper perch bolt from the 140, not the 240 as the thread pitch is different.

you'll need to trim the bump stops as well.

]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1759&pid=57062#pid57062 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:15:44 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1759&pid=57062#pid57062 (02-17-2012 11:14 PM)The Vintage Wrote:  ok, I forgot to mention that I have replaced the ambient air temp sensor and also the Djet ECU with a model correct replacement. I'm assuming it's running lean because after the warm start, the idle is super low until I open up the throttle then, I get a lumpy but better idle. After I get moving, the engine idle sounds fine. I don't have a wideband sensor so I could be completely wrong.
As for the jerking, I'll try and describe it a bit better. When I drive downhill/uphill, the car doesn't jerk at all after I accel or decel; it only happens when I'm driving on flat ground while apply really light pressure on the pedal; especially making small, light adjustments on the pedal.
The air temp sensor is commonly unplugged, I found mine this way from the PO. When I plug it in the car runs like crap with a low idle, poor throttle response.

The jerking is likely the TPS sensor on the throttle body if the jerking is at certain throttle positions only. You can pop the dust cover off and clean the contacts, it may need to be replaced.]]> (02-17-2012 11:14 PM)The Vintage Wrote:  ok, I forgot to mention that I have replaced the ambient air temp sensor and also the Djet ECU with a model correct replacement. I'm assuming it's running lean because after the warm start, the idle is super low until I open up the throttle then, I get a lumpy but better idle. After I get moving, the engine idle sounds fine. I don't have a wideband sensor so I could be completely wrong.
As for the jerking, I'll try and describe it a bit better. When I drive downhill/uphill, the car doesn't jerk at all after I accel or decel; it only happens when I'm driving on flat ground while apply really light pressure on the pedal; especially making small, light adjustments on the pedal.
The air temp sensor is commonly unplugged, I found mine this way from the PO. When I plug it in the car runs like crap with a low idle, poor throttle response.

The jerking is likely the TPS sensor on the throttle body if the jerking is at certain throttle positions only. You can pop the dust cover off and clean the contacts, it may need to be replaced.]]> http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1711&pid=57060#pid57060 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:41:50 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1711&pid=57060#pid57060 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=817&pid=57058#pid57058 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:17:35 +0000 http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=817&pid=57058#pid57058